Pocono
Mountain Vacation
Home-Buying Tips
As with just about any subject, if you
ask ten people for their opinion on finding and buying a Pocono
Mountain Vacation home, you'll get ten different opinions. Most
of this information is purely the author's opinion based on
feedback from home maintenance customers. After serving the
area's home owners for several years, this general guide was
created simply to provide some non-biased information for
finding the best vacation home for your family.
As you consider this information, remember to always
consider the source of any advice before acting upon it.
Remember, suggestions presented here are purely the opinion of
this author. Now on to the first hot subject of the
day.
Should I Buy a
Foreclosure?
While many so called experts will advise you to
search out foreclosures, I've learned that it has been a
very rare thing when someone actually gets a great deal with a
foreclosed home. I'm not discussing the question of waiting on
banks and mortgage companies to respond to offers or such
but there are some simple points that surprise many buyers.
It is a very rare thing that a home that has been foreclosed
is in good shape. I've been called into to estimate repairs
ranging from simple holes in sheetrock to cases where walls and
kitchen cabinets have been torn out. In the Pocono area there
is a constant threat of finding mold in damp and unheated
homes. Anyone familiar with the problems of mold knows
that even a simple mold problem can cost thousands of dollars
for remediation. The problem with this is it is often missed
with typical home inspections. Regardless of an inspection,
another point of a foreclosure is that home is sold "as-is"
with no recourse possible on the part of the buyer.
In most cases homes in foreclosure are simply "beat up" at
best and "destroyed" at worse. Usually they feature no upgrades
at all and seldom have improved properties.
Now having said all that, I do know of some who have gotten
exceptional buys and then had the cash to repair and update the
properties to a livable condition. But in most cases, the cost
of repairs and replacement of appliances and such run the cost
of the home up to almost the average price point in an area.
Those who normally do well in this are those who are in the
trades and realize what they face.
So personally speaking, I suggest not even wasting time
on foreclosed homes. But a smart shopper will note the price of
foreclosures in an area and use that information to help them
in the price negotiation process.
Remember the Purpose of Your
Home Purchase
It is no secret that emotions are involved
when shopping for a home. It is best to keep the purpose of
your home in mind at all times. Lets consider some facts that
many do not want to discuss during the home buying
procedure.
First: Do not expect to buy an old Pocono
Mountain Vacation home as a financial investment for the
future. Notice I said an "old" home and I'm referring to the
typical T-111 wood sided home types mentioned in the
construction section of this subject. I can state with
complete honesty that most people haven't a clue concerning the
cost of having contractors work on older homes.
From my customers I've seen that unless you are in the
building trades, there is no way you will pay for workers and
materials to upgrade one of these older homes to a significant
point of selling it for a profit. I know that everyone knows
someone who made a "killing" but I can show you ten people for
each one of those that lost their shirts on repairs and
upgrades. Remember the point that there was no building code
until fairly recently. Common sense dictates that you will pay
for this when obtaining building permits to upgrade a home to
current specs. You would be surprised at what I've found
in some of these old vacation homes. Remember the point that
they were built cheaply in their day since they were only to
serve as vacation homes. What was generally acceptable as a
vacation home in the 70's and 80's simply does not measure up
to our needs today. I've seen people buy these old homes and
reside them with vinyl siding and think they'll flip them for a
profit. Guess what, most home shoppers easily identify them for
what they are and move on to newer homes.
Remember that you and your family want to use this new home
as a vacation get-away or a new year-around home, you
don't want to spend your time repairing it or maintaining the
old home.
Second: Decide upon your location
before looking at any homes. As stated in the "
Location" section of this report, if you like town and city
life, I'd suggest looking only in the Stroudsburg or East
Stroudsburg area of the Pocono's. If you like the idea of rural
living then search out the eastern area going north from
Marshalls Creek on route 209.
I suggest the eastern area due to it's proximity to NJ and
NY. Home values have tended to remain fairly stable in
this area due to regular demand of new buyers. I suggest
looking at private communities for several reasons shown
on the mentioned "location" report.
But don't let others tell you that living in the mountain
communities will cost you too much time in traveling. That is
what some lazy real estate agents will say so they don't have
to spend any extra time outside their comfort zone when showing
homes. The bulk of their home inventory will be in the
city areas which shouldn't be surprising. The majority of
the population in the area lives there so the turnover of homes
is the highest.
Believe me when I say there is a world of
difference in communities even though they might only be a
couple miles apart. I know since I've worked in all of
them. You do well for yourself by visiting several and
doing your research.
Third: In recent years, larger homes have
become the norm. While in some areas this might be questioned,
I'd always recommend buying a three or four bedroom home with
at least two or three bath rooms. This is a prime vacation area
and has been for decades. You will have friends and relatives
coming to visit and you want to be able to provide hospitality.
Lets face it, that's part of the beauty of living in a
mountain resort area. Plus you will find the cost per square
foot of existing homes in the region a steal when compared to
similar size homes in New Jersey or New York.
Where Do I Go for Home Sales?
Real Estate
Agents: I've worked for and around real estate
agents all my adult life. So at my age I've met all types and
have several long time friends still in the field. I say this
because in no way do I mean this to insult those working hard
to serve their customers. But I do have a different perspective
on home buying and selling then most agents.
Most people shopping for a home from out of the area will
automatically call a large real estate company that they might
be familiar with. The agent will do his/her job by checking the
online listings of the MLS for any homes in your price range
and location of choice. Then you have to sign the legal
agreement that the agent is representing you in the possible
purchase of any of the homes they show you.
How Do I Shop For A
Home?
Suggestion: Do your
homework BEFORE setting foot in any real estate
office.
Realize that today you have access to the very same homes
for sale as the realtors do. If you visit
Weichert.com, bhgrealestate.com, remax.com and
realtor.com you will have access to most if not all they have
access to. Go to these sites and do your homework.
This will enable you to compare listed prices in various areas
and get a feel for what you can expect for your price
point.
Then I suggest you do what agents
will never suggest. Start searching
classified ads from poconorecord.com, ebay.com,
poconos.craigslist.org and
forsalebyowner.com and
owners.com
But you are searching only homes
"for sale by owner"
Why do I suggest this?
The first reason is you can miss out on some great homes for
sale and never know about them if you depend upon the real
estate agent. You must understand that most homes sold by
owner will not pay agents to show their properties.
Although some private sellers will invite agents, they (agents)
still are reluctant to go to private sellers for other reasons
and its all about their income and not you.
If you are already qualified for a loan and have written
proof, a private seller will be more then happy to show you
their home. As mentioned, since the private sellers are
not locked into paying a real estate agent 6-7% of the price,
they are more inclined to give the buyer a better deal.
Use this to your advantage. As with any home purchase,
I'd recommend securing the services of a real estate attorney
to review any contracts.
Popular areas
Narrow your targeted area. Realize that homes
available outside a private community will mean you need a
private well and septic tank, private trash pickup
and be fully dependent upon local police and municipal
departments for all services and none of these services
are free. Generally speaking, your property
taxes will be a bit higher also.
In contrast, many (but not all) private
communities will provide these services as part of
their amenities. I suggest narrowing down your search to
ONLY private communities offering central water and sewer
along with the standard benefits.
Note: some of the older communities have sections being
serviced by public water and sewer and others still with
private wells and septic, so do your homework. Plus I
know of at least one very large private community which
requires their septic to be cleaned every three years
regardless of use. You can see how a cost like this
would add up very quickly.
I strongly suggest considering driving time instead of
miles from favorite areas when you are considering a
location. I'll give you an example of why I mention
this.
I lived in a coastal town in NJ for years. The closest
grocery store was less then 7 miles from my home.
The traffic lights and traffic turned that 7 mile trip
into a 20 minute drive. I now live in the Glen at
Tamiment* and the trip to the local grocery store is
exactly 10 miles from my door. This trip takes 15
minutes.
*Obviously I'm biased since I'm very familiar with this
community. But I took the suggested steps shown above
when selecting our home several years ago. After doing
so, the fact that my decision was correct was backed by the
feedback received from my customers throughout the
area.
Quick Tips:
- Research areas, communities and homes thoroughly
before looking at homes.
- Use realtor.com and
forsalebyowner.com to narrow down your
search. Do not rely on real estate agents-do your own
research.
- If using a "buyer's agent" don't sign an exclusive
contract with them. You want to be able to shop for
and buy a home without their representation (fee) if you
deal with someone selling privately as on
forsalebyowner.com
- Only consider homes offering maintenance free care,
energy efficient building products
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- Insulated windows
- *Hint* When visiting homes, look at
window sills. Newer homes will have 6"
exterior walls which can be easily identified at
window frames. The wider exterior wall means
more insulation.
- Check roof condition/age.
- Look for energy efficient fire-places, ie:
propane, pellet (hint: wood is usually least
efficient if burned in open fireplace) Be
sure any stove/fireplace will operate without
electricity.
- Heat: beware of electric heat.
- Caution about basements. Walk-outs are
generally the best. Many homes experience water
problems in full basements in the Pocono region. Look
for signs of problems such as sump pumps, water stains on
basement floors, white stains on concrete
walls/blocks.
- Look for communities with underground utilities if
possible.
- ONLY consider areas with sewer and public
water
More Detailed Help?
Author of this section is
Dennis Estelle, owner of A-Plus Home Care
Home Maintenance professional for
30 years
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